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In Episode #54, Ross is joined by Jessie McGuire, Managing Director at brand design studio ThoughtMatter.

Jessie leads a diverse team in creating daring designs and identities for a wide range of clients, from global brands to local communities, art museums and foundations, and institutions and non-profits.

Ross and Jessie discuss the limits of branding, how designers should be thinking about their work, and why not all brands need to be ‘conscious’.

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